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Replied by Eagle Six on topic Just a concept question about "Start all new projects with these settings"....

Thank You Coe for the kind words, although I wish I could live up to them. I'll download your video and send an email.
Best Regards......George
07 Jun 2019 09:26 #11

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Replied by HawaiianEye on topic Just a concept question about "Start all new projects with these settings"....

ericlnz wrote:

HawaiianEye wrote: Thank You Doc.!

He was showing how our eye is used to 24fps, by having his wife do "Jumping Jacks" 60fps vs 24 fps.
60fps was choppy and stuttery. 24 looked smooth.


I would have expected it to be the other way around. I find PAL 25fps videos that have movement close or fast across the screen jerky whereas 50fps are smooth. As for our eyes being used to 24fps, that's a strange statement. Do you have a link to where you saw this?

Did you check out the video ericlnz?
11 Jun 2019 18:15 #12

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Replied by ericlnz on topic Just a concept question about "Start all new projects with these settings"....

Yes but I didn't notice anything involving "jumping jacks". I didn't agree with a couple of his statements especially the one that 50 fps is only used if you want slow motion. Video cameras have been shooting 50/60 fps for years to give smooth movement. People get hung up over 24 fps but film is a different medium to digital. Digital captures the image onto pixels in a fixed grid. Film captures the image onto light-sensitive silver halide crystals. These are not in a fixed position and vary from frame to frame, and can change shape. The result is film shows smoother movement at lower framerates than digital.

Anyway I'm sticking with smooth 50fps. Others are welcome to their jerky 24 fps. The comments in the video were probably written from the viewpoint of drone shooting where normally you are not up close to fast movement so can get away with slower framerates. As for your comment that our eyes are used to seeing 24 fps, surely it's our brains that interpret what our eyes capture? I read somewhere that the brain needs at least 48 images per second to perceive fluid motion.
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Replied by HawaiianEye on topic Just a concept question about "Start all new projects with these settings"....

Did you see the part where any modern attempt to use a speed higher than 24fps, by the motion picture industry, has been met with a quick return to back 24 fps?
It's in the history of cinema recap. of that video.
It's a bold lie, if it is untrue. Maybe it is.
I understand we will use whatever fps we prefer. That's cool! These videos we are mostly producing, are not Cinema.
Most of cinema is digital. Produced on computers, using digital programs. It may be transferred onto film for projection, I'm not sure anymore.
I am new, and wanted to know how to blend different speeds from difference sources, when I started this thread.
Of course I include drone video. And camera/gimbal video.
You questioned my 24fps comment, and that's what we're here for. Thus, I answered your question about where I heard that.
The motion blur video, which I confused with fps, (because I watched them both months ago) is talking about shutter speed.
It is demonstrated very close to the beginning of the video. Thus Jumping Jacks.
Again, this has little to do with 50 fps vs 25, etc. I erroneously thought it did.
Neutral Density filters are used by some drone videographers, because some drones have only fixed aperture.
Shutter speed and FPS, have a formula for pleasing results. But, you may not agree with that. It's ok.
YouTube:

Quote: "As for your comment that our eyes are used to seeing 24 fps, surely it's our brains that interpret what our eyes capture?"
Is this a question, or a statement? Yes, you exposed me as faulty. I should be more careful. Thanks!
As for our eyes being used to "seeing" something, the same goes for our noses get used to smelling something, and ears get accustomed to hearing something familiar.. but this is not educationally correct. Good Point!
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Replied by ericlnz on topic Just a concept question about "Start all new projects with these settings"....

I read somewhere that James Cameron is shooting Avatar 2 in 48fps. Here's an interesting comparison and the following comments are interesting:


We need to bear in mind that "Hollywood" is using cameras and software that we'd need to take out a mortgage on our homes to purchase.
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