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New Desktop PC

Posted 18 Jan 2022 20:52 #1
Good morning I am considering upgrading my laptop to a desktop PC. I have had a build specification posted to me from a specialist PC builder in the UK.   am I allowed to post the spec on here for comments or further advice please?   Is there any upgrades to the specs or alterations that can be made please.  My main use would be using Vegas Post with effects and Images along with NewBlue Titler7 and Boris Particle simulator. I will also be using all the Affinty suite of programs. Cheers John
 

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Posted 19 Jan 2022 13:47 #2
Hi John

I have moved your new message into the Computer Hardware sub-forum.

Of cause it's OK to post computer specs on the forum!

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Posted 21 Jan 2022 03:29 #3
Any thoughts on this build Derek  ?Cheers John

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Posted 21 Jan 2022 15:13 #4
A general comment first.
The components in this selection are mostly budget orientated parts.
They are perfectly OK, but there are better (slightly more expensive) options available.
Because they are cheaper/older parts, they do lack performance compared to better/newer parts available.
Every time I have built a new computer, I always go for better parts, which normally equals more years of productivity before having to upgrade again.

1. Get the AMD Ryzen 5800X instead.
The 5800X is 15% - 20% better than 3800X.
The price for 5800X has come down significantly compared to 12 months ago - it is a really good price right now!

2. The B550 Motherboard is OK with 3800X.
It only has PCIe 3.0 support, which means limited bandwidth connections to CPU, which means slower processing.

I use an X570 Motherboard with 5800X.
X570 supports PCIe 4.0, which offers more bandwidth/connections directly to CPU.
M.2 NVME SSDs have better connection to CPU.
Graphics Card have better connection to CPU.

3. 2666 MHz RAM does seem a bit slow.
As far as I am aware, 3000 MHz RAM is better suited for AMD Ryzen 3800X CPU.
RAM speed/timing are really important for getting the most out of AMD Ryzen CPUs.

On my 58090X computer, I used 3600 MHz, which is the best for the 5800X.

4. For a storage drive, I would stick with a conventional high capacity HDD.
500 GBs will get filled up in next to no time at all.
Because I have so much video, I now use Western Digital 10TB Black drives for storage.
Any Western Digital Black drive is really good for storage, because it is fast for an HDD.

M.2 NVME drives are so cheap now, I would, probably just put in an extra M.2 NVME drive if you want some super fast storage.

5. Nvidia RTX 3060 12GB is an excellent choice, considering the insane price of GPUs now.
You'll get the most out of this GPU, if you put it on an X570 motherboard.

 

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Posted 21 Jan 2022 22:26 #5
Ok many thanks for your thoughts Derek.
Have adjusted some items as per your recommendations and I am still just with budget, can you let me know your thoughts on the new spec please.  Cheers John
 

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Posted 23 Jan 2022 12:08 #6
Your new list looks really good, except I can't see a computer case listed ?
Maybe I'm blind and it's starring at me ?

There is only one thing left on your list that I am questioning ?
AMD Ryzen 5800X runs quite hot compared to older CPUs - this is normal behaviour from this chip, because it is such a small piece of silicon, which means all the heat is concentrated into a very small area.
AMD has publicly stated that it can handle high temperatures quite OK, with the right cooling.
Because it runs hot when you are doing something like rendering or converting video with Handbrake, you need to have really good cooling.

Before I say anything else, I want you to know that when I built my new computer, my No.1 objective was to built a quiet computer.
I would personally recommend an "All in One" (AIO) water cooler and not an air cooler. I think most people who have a 5000 series Ryzen CPU would say the same thing.
There is a HUGE range of AIO water cooler manufacturers now.
From memory, I think Corsair was one of the first companies to sell "All in One" water coolers, so that is a very popular brand.

Without going into a really long personal story, the CPU cooler I bought for my own computer was a be quiet! Pure Loop 280mm AIO Liquid CPU cooler.
After 12 months of hammering my 5800X with daily encoding of movies, I can report that my be quiet! cooler does a terrific job!
The reason I went with the "be quiet!" brand of coolers, was for 3 reasons.
1. I didn't want/need RGB coloured lights on my cooler.
2. I didn't want complicated software to run the cooler (control fan and pump speeds).
3. When I checked online tests of all brands on water coolers, be quiet! got ranked really well for performance.

If you can fit a minimum 240mm radiator into your new computer case, I would recommend you get an AIO water cooler.
A 240mm minimum water cooler radiator is needed for it to work well - the more surface area, the better the cooling.
In my case, I was able to fit a slightly larger 280mm radiator, that uses larger fans - larger means better cooling at lower fan speeds = more quiet.

If you got a cooler like a Corsair iCUE H100i RGB Pro XT 240mm AIO CPU Cooler, that comes with it's own software for controlling fan speeds.
With my be quiet! cooler, I control it directly with the included ASUS Suite (Motherboard) software, were you can set fan and pump speeds.
When I am doing general computing, my computer is extremely quiet. It's only when I am doing rendering or video conversion, that the fan speeds go to maximum, for maximum cooling.
Sorry for rambling on a bit, but I thought you would appreciate my reasoning for decisions.

Final thought and recommendation!
Once you get your new computer, make sure to let me know.
Don't use the ASUS Suite software to control your Ryzen 5800X.
Instead, install AMD Ryzen Master. This is a special program AMD has created to get the most out of your CPU.
There are also some settings you can change in your BIOS, to make your CPU run a lot cooler without loosing any performance.
 

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Posted 23 Jan 2022 20:42 #7
Good morning from the UK Derek.
Thanks for your help with putting this new PC together for me.  I am extremely grateful.  Whilst I understand how to use the software on my Laptop, hardware configarations are a minefield for me.  This hopefully will be the last quote then I can can think about ordering it.  At my age (75) it will probably be the last PC I shall buy. I have altered the SSD drive and gone for a larger power supply for possible future expansion.  Cheers John
 

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Posted 24 Jan 2022 10:36 #8
Looks good to me 

Slightly more powerful Power Supply was a good idea as well.

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