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Solved Getting flicker on still images when using the “Pan and Crop” EVENT in Movie Studio Platinum 13.

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I’ve been using MSP 13 and DVD Architect Studio 5.0 with good results for a couple of years. After a trip to Italy that was at the top of my bucket list, I tried adding some panning and zooming to my still images using the “Pan and Crop” EVENT. My images are now “flickering”, “shimmering”, or what I guess is the technical term “interline twitter”. This happens on window shutters, striped shirts, columns flutes and other types of edges in the image.

I’ve tried changing Field order: progressive scan/upper field first/lower field first, Deinterlace method: Interpolate fields/Blend fields, Switches: Reduce interlace flicker/Disable resample, converting images from .jpg to .png and removing a couple of background Windows processes.

My setup is a HP Pavilion laptop with Intel Core i7-6700 CPU at 2.6GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M (with updated driver), 128GB SSD, 1TBHD running Windows 10 Home, Movie Studio Platinum 13 and DVD Architect Studio 5.0 and a Canon PowerShot SX60 HS configured to take 15.9 MP images and 1920x1080 29.97 fps HD video.

I’ve unplugged everything except my blood pressure monitor and am now waiting for inspiration. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Last Edit:21 Dec 2017 11:59 by Rozly

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It's inherent in the nature of the digital image and its fixed pixel positions which have to try and recreate fine straight lines as they move. The lower the resolution of the rendered image the worse it is. Hence SD is worse than HD. Plus outputting as interlaced makes it worse.

Softening the image with very, very light gaussian blur helps as does trying slower or faster pans. Plus if you are exporting interlaced there's a setting in a clip's properties (as below) you could try but it looks as if you've probably already tried it. Note the other things you mention aren't applicable to still images such as field order, deinterlace method and resampling.



Although I've not used MSP much for still images on the occasions I have I've not experienced problems with twitter but then nowadays I only export 1080.
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A search on the net shows that GPU rendering can also cause or exaggerate the problem. So if you're using GPU try switching it off.

Hopefully Derek may be along soon with some more suggestions.
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A search on the net shows that GPU rendering can also cause or exaggerate the problem. So if you're using GPU try switching it off.

Over the years I have sometimes had the same thing happen, usually during a Transition or Pan/Crop.
I have never been able to work out which combination of events causes the problem, but rendering with the GPU seems to be the No.1 cause.
Go back to CPU only and hopefully it should go away.

Eric has suggested the same thing I was going to say.
Go into Options/Preferences/Video/GPU Acceleration and set to OFF.
Re-boot Vegas and re-load your project.

If this does not fix the problem, please supply more info for us.
I would like to see screen shots of ALL of the following.

1. Project Properties for Video
2. Which Output format and template you used to render with ?
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I've just realised that with MS14 the option in Render Templates for "Encode Mode" in the Video Tab has disappeared. Even with templates I created in MS12 or MS13 it doesn't appear in Ms14 but the same templates when used in MS13 do have the option.

Having the option to turn off GPU processing in two places did sometimes cause confusion.
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Turning the GPU off seems to help some. I first used "Match Video Media Settings" which set it to Custom (1920x1080, 29.970 fps). By going back to NTSC DV Widescreen (720x480, 29.970 fps), it significantly improved the shimmer. I've concluded that I'm probably being too aggressive with my panning and zooming.

In the future, I plan on taking stills at max resolution (15.9 MP) but I'm not sure what video setting I should use considering I plan on still using DVD Architect. My choices are FHD60P (1920x1080 60 fps), FHD30P (1920x1080, 30 fps), or HD30P (1280x720, 30 fps)?

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You can definitely experience problems with glitching in DVDs, when the Pan/Crop is too aggressive and/or your have Video Transitions which are too short. I have experienced the same effect myself.

Anyone that is a long time member of this forum, will know that I am not a fan of DVD !
Everyone has these beautiful cameras today that shoot gorgeous HD video quality.
If you are working with HD video, you should be making Blu-ray discs, not DVDs.
Blu-ray is a specification that supports HD video - you shouldn't experience the same problems with Blu-ray discs and you will have 4x times the resolution to deliver your projects in.

If you don't own a Blu-ray player, it's time to buy one now.
If your home has an X-box or Playstation, you already have a Blu-ray player sitting there, waiting to be used.

If you are going to stick with DVD only, it's not a good idea to shoot 60 fps video, unless you are going to slow it down.
FHD30P (1920x1080, 30 fps) and HD30P (1280x720, 30 fps) will both work OK with DVD.

If you jump to the future, which is now, you can shoot in any of these formats for Blu-ray production:
FHD60P (1920x1080 60 fps), FHD30P (1920x1080, 30 fps) & HD30P (1280x720, 30 fps)

Blu-ray does have a small limitation.
The maximum quality settings are:
1920x1080i-30fps or 1280x720p-60fps
This means you can shoot in 1920x1080 60fps and deliver in 1280x720 60fps on a Blu-ray disc - this looks great on a modern Smart TV, compared to DVD.

General rule:
If you want a more filmic look, shoot at 30fps or 24fps.
If you want a hyper-realistic look, shoot at 60fps and deliver in Blu-ray.

**EDIT**
You will also need to have a Blu-ray burner capable optical drive in your computer.
If it is Blu-ray ready, it will have a B on the door.
If you don't have a Blu-ray/DVD burner, you can upgrade your existing one by buying a new one and swapping it out.
OR
Buy a portable external Blu-ray burner.
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DoctorZen wrote: ---If you are working with HD video, you should be making Blu-ray discs, not DVDs.
---If you don't own a Blu-ray player, it's time to buy one now.
If your home has an X-box or Playstation, you already have a Blu-ray player sitting there, waiting to be used.
---deliver in Blu-ray.


I agree, but if you want to deliver in Blu-ray [discs], buy a Blu-ray burner ;)
(Just because this reminded me of one of my first comments on the old SCS forum)
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