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Posted 13 Jul 2017 18:35 #1
Hi, I'm using Vegas Movie Studio 14 Platinum and see that the program uses Adobe Flash for .MOV files. As I use Handbrake to convert my video files (which are .MOV files) to .MP4 I wondered if is OK to uninstall Adobe Flash from my computer as I understand it could be a security risk?
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Posted 13 Jul 2017 21:02 #2
Does it. Are you sure? I thought Apple Quicktime was used for mov files.
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Posted 13 Jul 2017 21:36 #3
Ericnz, yes you are right. It's my mistake have actually uninstalled Adobe Flash and can still import .MOV files.
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Posted 13 Jul 2017 22:06 #4
Actually my understanding is it's the Quicktime in your browser that is a potential but very remote security problem. Using Quicktime in MS is safe and possibly you could cause problems by removing it. There are many posts about it on several forums. It's just gone midnight here so too tired to search tonight.
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Posted 13 Jul 2017 22:15 #5
Thanks for your help.
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Posted 14 Jul 2017 08:58 #6
Here's one thread especially John Rofrano's posts

forums.creativecow.net/thread/24/998682
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Posted 14 Jul 2017 13:23 #7
Thank you Eric :)

May I add a little more to this topic, for anyone else that may land here in the future.

History
RE: Adobe Flash
Flash video has never worked in any version of Vegas.

Adobe Flash player is the scourge of the Internet and was responsible for multiple hacking attacks over many, many years. That's why Adobe Flash always has a new update to install every time you turn your computer on.

Apple boycotted Adobe Flash starting in 2010, under direct instruction from Steve Jobs.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_and_Adobe_Flash_controversy

Fast forward to 2016 and Google is proactively trying to kill off Adobe Flash once and for all, which I 100% agree with.
All websites should be using HTML player instead.
www.theverge.com/2016/12/9/13903878/google-chrome-block-flash-html5
If you are using Google Chrome and land on a website that is using Adobe Flash player, where the video should be you will see a warning. If you want to watch that video, you will need to install Adobe Flash player.

There are still huge numbers of websites who use Adobe Flash instead of HTML.
Lazy sites who don't care and dodgy sites, like porn websites is where you will still need Flash player.

Apple Quicktime
Last year people were advised to un-install Quicktime on a Windows machine, because of a possible exploit.
Quicktime is no longer properly supported on Windows.

However, the exploit with Quicktime only affects the player if you play a video that has been hacked and has nasty code attached to it.
So as long as you don't play videos downloaded from the Internet using Quicktime on a Windows machine, you will be safe.

Vegas still needs the codecs that are included with Quicktime, to work with some videos that use Apple formats/codecs.
If you are on Windows 10, the latest version of Quicktime will not work!
This means you will need to install an older version of Quicktime - I recommend version 7.6
Read more about this here:
www.moviestudiozen.com/doctor-zen-faq/525-install-older-version-apple-quicktime-movie-studio-vegas-pro
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Posted 14 Jul 2017 18:35 #8
Thanks Derek.

I'm on Win 10 and checking my Quicktime it's 7.7.9! Yet it appears to work okay playing both mp4 and mov files. A few months ago I used it with MS13 and some mov files from iPhone without problems. I note it's only 32 bit.
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Posted 14 Jul 2017 20:14 #9

I'm on Win 10 and checking my Quicktime it's 7.7.9! Yet it appears to work okay playing both mp4 and mov files. A few months ago I used it with MS13 and some mov files from iPhone without problems. I note it's only 32 bit.


That is interesting Eric :idea:
I am using 64 bit Windows 10.
I was an early adopter of Windows 10 and participated in the Beta program, well before Windows 10 was officially released.
Back then, I tried installing the latest version of QT and it would always fail to install - everyone else in the Beta program was reporting the same thing.
I never bothered to try and install it again after that, because I have a habit of flogging dead horses and wasting too much time experimenting.

Because of what you reported, the professor inside of me decided to see if QT 7.7.9 would install correctly now and it did !
Which I can only conclude, must be something to do with an update that occurred to Windows 10 - when that happened, who knows?

I will make sure to update my FAQ articles on this website, about QT 7.7.9
I do still receive private messages from random people, who are complete Vegas newbies, and some people are still having problems installing QT 7.7.9, so I have been advising them to install 7.6 instead and they always report that version does work.

That all being said, Apple does firmly state that they are no longer supporting QT for Windows, so people can use at at their own risk.
As long as people don't try and play videos from the Internet with QT, they should be safe.

Thanks for the new info :)

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Posted 14 Jul 2017 22:14 #10
Following all your replies I decided against installing Quick Time as my Vegas Movie Studio 14 Platinum seems to run OK without it, I only render either to .MP4 or .MPG formats.
I did notice though, maybe it's how my PC is set up, when I deleted Flash that when I launched VMS it took ages for it to finish opening up and displaying the windows layout. I re-installed Flash and the program is back to normal, so I have disabled Flash in my browser and everything seem to run OK.
Many thanks for all your replies.
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